VG30ET Engine Air Flow and Turbo Compressor
Maps
Originally
sourced from L28ET Engine Air Flow
Calculations:
Z31 - VG30ET Displacement = 3.0 liters = 183.07 cubic
inches
Air flow equals: Cid X RPM X 0.5 X
Ev
1728
For 6500 redline and Ev = 0.80:
Air flow equals: 183.07 X 6500 X 0.5 X 0.80 = 275.35cfm
1728
1lb/min = 14.472 cfm
so 275.35 cfm = 19.03 lbs/min
air flow at boost = stock air flow X pressure
ratio
Pressure Ratio = (boost +
14.7)
14.7
So for 20psi of Boost @ 6500rpm:
Air flow = 275.35 X (20+14.7) = 650.22cfm or
44.93lbs/min
14.7
Air Flow Data in Table Form for different levels
of boost: (both cfm and lbs/min)
RPM |
CFM 0PSI |
7PSI |
10PSI |
12PSI |
14.7PSI |
20PSI |
25PSI |
29.4PSI |
6500 |
275.45 |
406.32 |
462.84 |
500.3 |
550.91 |
650.22 |
743.91 |
826.36 |
6000 |
254.26 |
375.06 |
427.24 |
461.82 |
508.53 |
600.2 |
686.69 |
762.79 |
5000 |
211.89 |
312.55 |
356.03 |
384.85 |
423.77 |
500.17 |
572.24 |
635.66 |
4000 |
169.51 |
250.04 |
284.83 |
307.88 |
339.02 |
400.13 |
457.79 |
508.53 |
3250 |
137.73 |
203.16 |
231.42 |
250.15 |
275.45 |
325.11 |
371.95 |
413.18 |
3000 |
127.13 |
187.53 |
213.62 |
230.91 |
254.26 |
300.1 |
343.34 |
381.4 |
2000 |
84.75 |
125.02 |
142.41 |
153.94 |
169.51 |
200.07 |
228.9 |
254.26 |
1000 |
42.38 |
62.51 |
71.21 |
76.97 |
84.75 |
100.03 |
114.45 |
127.13 |
700 |
29.66 |
43.76 |
49.84 |
53.88 |
59.33 |
70.02 |
80.11 |
88.99 |
1240 |
52.55 |
77.51 |
88.3 |
95.44 |
105.1 |
124.04 |
141.91 |
157.64 |
Calculated VG30ET air flow in CFM
using Ev 0.80
|
Air Flow
lb/min |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Pressure
Ratio |
1 |
1.48 |
1.68 |
1.82 |
2 |
2.36 |
2.7 |
3 |
RPM |
0PSI |
7PSI |
10PSI |
12PSI |
14.7PSI |
20PSI |
25PSI |
29.4PSI |
6500 |
19.03 |
28.08 |
31.98 |
34.57 |
38.07 |
44.93 |
51.4 |
57.1 |
6000 |
17.57 |
25.92 |
29.52 |
31.91 |
35.14 |
41.47 |
47.45 |
52.71 |
5000 |
14.64 |
21.6 |
24.6 |
26.59 |
29.28 |
34.56 |
39.54 |
43.92 |
4000 |
11.71 |
17.28 |
19.68 |
21.27 |
23.43 |
27.65 |
31.63 |
35.14 |
3250 |
9.52 |
14.04 |
15.99 |
17.29 |
19.03 |
22.46 |
25.7 |
28.55 |
3000 |
8.78 |
12.96 |
14.76 |
15.96 |
17.57 |
20.74 |
23.72 |
26.35 |
2000 |
5.86 |
8.64 |
9.84 |
10.64 |
11.71 |
13.82 |
15.82 |
17.57 |
1000 |
2.93 |
4.32 |
4.92 |
5.32 |
5.86 |
6.91 |
7.91 |
8.78 |
700 |
2.05 |
3.02 |
3.44 |
3.72 |
4.1 |
4.84 |
5.54 |
6.15 |
1240 |
3.63 |
5.36 |
6.1 |
6.59 |
7.26 |
8.57 |
9.81 |
10.89 |
Calculated L28ET air flow in lbs/min using Ev 0.85 to 0.80
Download vg30et Airflow excel spreadsheet to modify calculations: vg30ETAirflow.zip
This spreadsheet has the following plot Air Flow vs. Boost Levels:
Air Flow Data Plotted Against Different Boost
Levels (Pressure Ratio vs. lbs/min)
VG30ET air flow in
lbs/min at 10, 12, 14.7, 20, 25 and 29.4psi (1.68 / 1.82 / 2.0 / 2.36 /
2.7 / 3.0 BAR) of
boost
- far right end points are at max boost and
redline (6500rpm)
- "knees" are half way to redline when full boost
hits (3250rpm) note: this is an arbitrary point and is dependent on A/R
ratio.
- far left "start" point is 20% of redline flow
and pressure ratio of 1BAR note: this is also
arbitrary
Air Flow Data Plotted Against Different Boost
Levels and Transcribed to "Stock" Garrett
T3-60 Compressor Map
(Pressure Ratio vs. lbs/min)
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
all three levels of boost are at the 60% or lower efficiency range. This means
the compressor is making a lot of heat in these regions. The boost range from
10 to 16psi holds near 60% at redline but it quickly gets worse as the boost
is increased toward 20psi.
- Since the "knee" is ~3250 rpm, and it is in the
74% efficiency "sweet spot" this compressor will work well between 3250rpm and
4500rpm
- This compressor is optimized for low boost small
displacement engines
- Goldilocks says "too small, too
hot"
Air Flow Data Plotted Against Different Boost
Levels and Transcribed to Garrett T61 Compressor Map (Pressure Ratio vs.
lbs/min)
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor, for
all three levels of boost, are in the 76% "sweet spot"
- 3250 rpm "knee"
points for this compressor, for all three levels of boost, are in the 66% area
near the surge limit. This region is where the flow is not sufficient to spin
the turbo wheels.
- This big compressor will give poor performance
unless running full out near red line. Therefore; it is great for drag
applications and not so great for the street.
- Goldilocks says "too big" for street, OK for
Drag..
Air Flow Data Plotted Against Different Boost
Levels and Transcribed to Garrett T04E-50 Compressor Map (Pressure Ratio
vs. lbs/min)
L28 compared to VG30et:
For L28:
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
all three level of boost are in the 75% +/- 1% efficiency region.
- 3250 rpm "knee"
points for this compressor at all three level of boost are in the 74% +/- 1%
efficiency region.
- When accelerating towards redline, the efficiency
passes through the maximum 78% area, thus performance is ideal during this
period.
- It should be obvious that this compressor can
handle even more boost and remain very efficient above the 20psi line. "It can
grow with your need for more speed"
- This compressor will give great performance
compared to the stock T3-60.
- Goldilocks says "just right"
Fo VG30et:
- Over 14.7PSI (1 Bar) Knee gets closer to the
Surge Limit.
- Over 25PSI, no longer in the sweet spot and
not efficient at redline.
Air Flow Data Plotted Against Different Boost
Levels and Transcribed to Garrett T04B-60-1 Compressor Map (Pressure
Ratio vs. lbs/min)
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor all
fail to reach the highest efficiency region.
- 3250 rpm "knee" points for this compressor at all
three levels of boost are in the surge threshold region
- It should be obvious that this compressor will
work better with a larger displacement engine as it's sweet spot is far to the
right where higher flows are required.
- Goldilocks says "too demanding"
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
all three level of boost are in the 60-75% efficiency region.
- 3250 rpm "knee" points for this compressor at all
three level of boost are in the 76% +/- 1% efficiency region.
- When accelerating towards redline, the efficiency
drops out of the maximum 76% area, thus performance decreases as rpms increase
though this is not as bad as the T3-60 above
- It should be obvious that this compressor will
work best for lower flowing engines with boost between 8 and
12psi.
- This compressor will give slightly better
performance performance to the stock T3-60.
- Goldilocks says "not a significant change from
stock"
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
all three level of boost are in the 45-60% efficiency region.
- 3250 rpm "knee" points for this compressor at all
three level of boost are in the 69 to 72% efficiency region.
- When accelerating towards redline, the efficiency
drops out of the maximum 73% area, thus performance decreases as rpms increase
though this is not as bad as the T3-60 above
- It should be obvious that this compressor will
work best for lower flowing engines with boost between 8 and
12psi.
- This compressor will give slightly better
performance performance to the stock T3-60.
- Goldilocks says "not a significant change from
stock"
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
all three level of boost are in the 70 to 76% efficiency region.
- two of the 3250 rpm "knee" points for this
compressor are below the surge limit so a dual stage boost controller is
needed to only let the high boost at higher rpms's
- When accelerating towards redline, the efficiency
passes through the maximum 78% area at 10psi and 76% at 16 and 20psi, thus
performance is ideal during this period.
- It should be obvious that this compressor can
handle only slightly more boost above the 20psi line.
- This compressor will give great performance
compared to the stock T3-60.
- Goldilocks says "ok but not most efficient and
needs dual stage boost controller"
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
all three level of boost are in the 65 to 72% efficiency region.
- 3250 rpm "knee" points for this compressor at all
three level of boost are in the 73% efficiency region.
- When accelerating towards redline, the efficiency
passes through the maximum 76% area, thus performance is ideal during this
period.
- It should be obvious that this compressor can
handle only slightly more boost above the 20psi line.
- This compressor will give great performance
compared to the stock T3-60.
- Goldilocks says "ok but not most efficient"
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
all three level of boost are in the 65 to 68% efficiency region.
- 3250 rpm "knee" points for this compressor at all
three level of boost are in the 77% efficiency region.
- When accelerating towards redline, the efficiency
passes through the maximum 76% area for 16 and 20psi, thus performance is
ideal during this period.
- It should be obvious that this compressor can
handle slightly more boost above the 20psi line and 10psi boost is just
OK.
- This compressor will give great performance
compared to the stock T3-60.
- Goldilocks says "ok but not most efficient"
GT30R Example:
- 6500 rpm red line points for this compressor at
10-20PSI levels of boost are in the 65 to 68% efficiency region.
- 3250 rpm "knee" points for this compressor at all
three level of boost are in the lower efficiency region.
- When accelerating towards redline, the efficiency
passes through the maximum 76% area for 10-20psi, thus performance is
ideal during this period.
- It should be obvious that this compressor can
handle slightly more boost above the 25psi line.
- Wish the knees were a little more to the
right, nearing surge point at 20psi and above. But at higher rpm the
compressor will most efficient.
- Goldilocks says "pretty sweet below
20PSI."
Just to compare, here it is again with an engine
with a .90 Ve, This would be an upgraded engine at or near sea level.
- Notice that at higher boost levels it is never
near surge limit.
- Notice that Lb/min at 25 PSI is equal to the
.80Ve at 30 PSI.
- Notice that this turbo is now out of the box
at 30 PSI. (You would never get there.)
- Goldilocks says Too small use the 76.2mm!
- No lag rally type application good to 20psi.
- Notice that at low boost it is never in the
sweet spot (not until 20PSI).
GT35R 82mm Example: Looky looky
- Great to about 18psi. always going to 79% eff. range
- Needs multi-stage boost control over 18psi , 72% eff. to 25psi (55lb/min =
~550Hp range)
Here it is again with a modified engine near sea level, 7K rpm redline with a
90 Ve 4k and Knee :
- Notice that it is good to 25PSI,
- Notice that it ranges thru the sweet spot to about 23PSI
GT40R 56trim:
- Too close to surge limit everywhere. Maybe a different trim would work.?
- Dang too big, Without engine modifications to increase ev and added rpm
range to get to sweet spot..
- Knee needs to move to higher rpms. 4000 rpm knee to get past surge
limit.
GT40R_56trim Ve 90% 4K Knee 7000 RPM range:
- So If you really built for it, it would work.
- May not spool at high eleveations (6000 feet)
More Maps provided by AZ_ZBum:
GT28RS, 60 mm, 60 trim, .60 A/R, 3000 rpm knee point.
GT28RS, 60 mm, 60 trim, .60 A/R, 4000 rpm knee point.
GT32, 71 mm, 52 trim, .50 A/R 3000 rpm kneepoint:
GT32, 71 mm, 52 trim, .50 A/R 4000 rpm kneepoint:
GT35, 52 trim, .50 A/R, 3000 rpm kneepoint:
GT35, 52 trim, .50 A/R, 4000 rpm kneepoint:
Yeah, I know these two are busy....
GT37/T04E, 52 trim, 3000 rpm knee:
GT37/T04E, 52 trim, 4000 rpm kneepoint:
T66
T66: 3250rpm knee point: Looks like it needs a Dual stage boost controller
T70:
Holset HY35-2003:
Ve 80 - 3250RPM Knee - 6500RPM Redline
update : GTX3071R - Ve 80 - 3250RPM Knee - 6500RPM Redline